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You don't create a $160 million a year business without hurdles. For the full interview, pick up Ragtrader's May edition.

1. He defied a learning disorder

"I went into remedial class and my whole school life, I was told I was not going to pass and I was not going to succeed. Then finally, my parents and I were called up by the school principal who said I shouldn't do Year 12. He felt I was probably just going to fail and I should head straight into a TAFE. I said, 'All my friends are doing Year 12. I started school and I feel like I should finish it.'My parents were torn on what to do. I didn't like being told what I can't do so I wanted to do it. That is something that has happened a lot throughout my business life. I've been told that I can't do things. I've always said I will. I studied really hard and tried and I did pass my HSC."

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2. He endured medium-sized business woes

"As a small business, you are turning over $100,000 year or under. When it is a medium business, you're turning over more like $1 million to $4 million annually. The medium starts becoming a little bit more tricky. You suddenly have staff, offices, overheads. You also start manufacturing offshore, which means you've got to start predicting you're going to buy. It's a lot more risky financially because suddenly the numbers are bigger. I almost closed the business twice in those years. I spent seven to 11 years in that middle size business bracket. The business almost collapsed because it was very hard for me to control."

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3. He adapted to big retail

"The challenge for me now is it's big, it's so big, it's a machine. I can't stop for a minute. From doing 12 collections a year as a medium business, now I do 24 collections a year and I'm doing ladies, mens, kids, gift. When you're a big business, you design for what the public wants. I have a real responsibility to the shareholders to make sure that they get good returns."

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